YEREVAN (RFE/RL)–A standing committee of the Armenian parliament approved on Friday a watered-down version of a controversial government bill that would allow the existence of schools where the main language of instruction is not Armenian.
The move, backed only by committee members representing President Serzh Sarkisian’s Republican Party, paves the way for its adoption, in the first reading, by the full National Assembly next week.
The Armenian government has faced a storm of criticism from opposition politicians, media and public figures, including those loyal to the Sarkisian administration, ever since it drafted relevant amendments to Armenia’s laws on education and language in late April.
They believe the proposed changes endanger Armenian’s constitutional status as the country’s sole official language. The critics include virtually all members of the presidential Public Council, a panel of prominent political and public figures making policy recommendations to Sarkisian.
The uproar forced the government to make significant changes in the bill late last month. It now makes clear that foreign-language schools can only be private and above the elementary level. It also stipulates that there can be no more than 15 such schools across the country. In addition, they would be required to teach one-third of their subjects in Armenian.
These changes failed to satisfy its opponents both inside and outside the parliament. The parliament committee on science and education endorsed the bill after a four-hour heated discussion that mainly featured negative evaluations. The committee’s Republican chairman, Artak Davtian, said it might be watered down further before being passed in the final reading.
“The draft law will be acceptable to us if foreign-language teaching is allowed only in high schools,” said Naira Zohrabian of the Prosperous Armenia Party a junior partner in the governing coalition.
Representatives of the opposition Armenian Revolutionary Federation and the Heritage Party rejected the bill in full. ARF parliamentary leader, Vahan Hovannisian, at the same time berated those critics who compare the government measure to high treason and question the patriotism of Armenians educated in Russian-language schools during the Soviet era.
A broad-based coalition of Armenian intellectuals actively campaigning against the bill also remained dissatisfied. About a dozen of its members picketed the parliament building during the committee meeting with banners rejecting foreign-language schools and demanding Education Minister Armen Ashotian’s resignation.
The protesters included Ruben Tarumian, an architect who designed a popular Armenian-language computer font. “If well allow the opening of even one foreign-language school, there will be a chain reaction of second, third and fourth such schools coming into existence,” he told RFE/RL.
“We are going to fight to the end,” said Armen Hovannisian, another campaigner. “This variant also must not be adopted.”
Ashotian seemed untroubled by the protest as he made his way into the parliament compound. “We don’t see anything dangerous here and welcome such civic activism,” he said.
Speaking to RFE/RL after the committee meeting, Ashotian stood by the government line that foreign-language would help to boost educational standards that have declined since the Soviet collapse. He said the amendments would also allow renowned international schools to open branches in Armenia.
Here we go; an example of traitorous move! There is nothing left Armenian in this government. The Action speaks itself. This government got to go with serjogly.
A total disgrace and a sell out by traitor Serzh,more sell outs on the way by this traitor and his bunch of corrupt cronies.
I don’t see anything wrong with this bill, If here in United States we can have private Armenian schools, In Armenia they can have private English or Russian schools.
Raffi,
I don’t see other nationals in private Armenian schools. Armenia is monolith republic 98% of its population is Armenian. What is the reason of these schools? There are few universities in Armenia (American, Slovakian and French). Why have schools? For what nation?
You say “in Armenia they can have English or Russian schools”. The question is who are THEY?
What do you expect Serjogly, gives speeches in Armenian, while reading cyrillic. He needs these schools, maybe the karabakhtsi’s need to continue their schooling, you can’t expect them to learn Armenian.
The sky is falling the sky is falling!
Instead of resorting to getting your information from CIA funded operations like Radio Liberty (headed by an ARF-er, incidentally), try getting your information from local Armenian sources. The “revised” bill for the setting up of foreign language schools has some support in the Republican party but the bill was not proposed by Republicans. Nevertheless, I am not totally against this bill. Stop panicking your dilapidated village won’t burn down as a result of this bill. Instead of bitching about every damn thing the administration does, I suggest you people pick better issues to crusade.
In other words, stop seeing demons in every corner, it’s a sign of paranoia. This “foreign language schools” may in the long run prove to be a foolish idea but the intention of the program is good. Those who foresee such schools are ones that think they are making Armenia competitive on the global stage by preparing a new generation of men and women who master various different languages. If Armenia is to become a trade hub, which is what the current leaders are working on, this program can be potentially be beneficial. However, it needs to be closely regulated and monitored. So, stop panicking, don’t burn your huts down just yet, “Serik” is not out to destroy Armenia like many of you self-destructive peasants think.
Serjik is out there to destroy Armenia we don’t need anymore proves then what we have now.
I don’t know about the sky but some one like you is taking the video camera from the hands of journalist that got arrested. I sow your comment under that article and decide to show you this video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWYg8x3utTg&feature=player_embedded
Common Avetis, how long you are going to prove that you are a good Hanrapetakan? Do you at least remember them in levon’s time? They where on the side of HHHS and shooting the people (opposition) in 94-95. How long you think you will stay in this party (fake Njdehakan)? It is over my friend!
Arman jan, you guys have convinced me that you are all clinically insane…
I would think the reason for these schools, since it’s backed up by Sarkisian, is for the children of Oligarchs and the elite in Armenia who eventually will end up either going to Europe, Russia or Dubai. So that’s the reason why they are backing up these non-Armenian schools. Since the Oligarchs and the Representatives will end up going out the country sometime, then their children will need to know other languages more than Armenian. I am on the side of the people in here who are rightfully so against it. Obviously it isn’t for the vast majority of the Armenians. It’s not based for them; but for the elite and the rich.
Now we can see the difference between the Armenian Revolutionary Federation’s patriotism and Sarkisian administration’s non-patriotism.
Please watch these videos to get more info about this issue:
http://blog.ararat-center.org/?p=394
http://blog.ararat-center.org/?p=395
http://blog.ararat-center.org/?p=398
Kirk Kerkorian, Aznavour, are they proud Armenians, do they speak Armenian? No Here in California give me a susscefull Armenian politician that succeded in elections in California that knows know how to speak Armenian, Paul Krikorian, Ara Najarian, Deukmejian? …
My point is Armenia is small landlocked, no natural resources country. Armenias potential in the people and the more they know foreign language most likely they will succeed in big businesses and help Armenia at the same time.
News – Renaissance Capital’s Aganbegyan to Head Russia’s Micex Bourse.
If he doesn’t know good Russian he will not lead one of Russias Bourse.
Raffi jan, do you now understand why I call these people “self-destructive peasants” that would burn down their village to save it from imaginary monsters?
Raffi,
Is that the best you can come up with? Let consider this as a logic test for you or math if you wish.
Just some facts
Just resent tests in Armenian universities show that 20% or the students who took English language test got 20 points. Less than 3% of the students who took Armenian language test got 20 point. Now based on this statistic, can you tell me what language is in better position?
A. Armenian
B. English
And please don’t bring an example of Kirk Kerkorian and Aznavour. First, you need to ask these people if they want to be the best model of Armenian. I am pretty sure they would not allow you this since they perfectly understand that language is one of the attributes of a nation.
Avetis,
Maybe being an Armenian is shameful thing for you, I can’t tell but seeing your writings about your mother tongue and the rest of your arguments on Asbarez forums, I can tell for sure that you are not an Armenian. I mean a real Armenian. YOU, VERY EASILY GIVE UP YOUR LANGUAGE, YOU VERY EASILY GIVE UP OUR INDEPENDENCE. I mean what kind of Armenian are you? What the f**ck are you doing in Armenian forums? You are forcing me to think that some of you have assigned here to do so provocations.
Nairian,
Nairian jan I would like to go in to deep explanation of the issue here since some of our diasoran brothers and sisters do not understand the real problem here. In Armenia every school teaches the students at least two foreign languages. In addition to that there are three foreign universities in Armenian (American, Slovakian and French) who solely teach foreign languages and subjects in that language. A high school graduate has the opportunity to deepen his/her knowledge in foreign language by continuing their study in those universities. The problem is not educating the elite’s children here but forcing the masses to change their Armenian thinking. Elite’s children can go to other countries to study and believe me they can afford it. Or they can go to private schools. So the problem here is not the elite. They say it is going to be 15 schools but this is a plain lie. After they open those schools the count will grow exponentially since no one will go to Armenian schools which will be considered low level schools.
Language is the main component of a nation. Language is thinking. You change people’s thinking you changed their identity. Artsakh people started fighting against the azeri pressure not only because of better life but because of realizing their national identity as Armenian. And this started after establishing connections with Armenia. The main problem here is not what presents the Armenian government but the fact that they want to Russianize the Armenian population. Most of the time we wonder why the Armenian government does things that are against our interests. The simple answer would be that most of these people have Russian education and are very far from Armenian values. Take an example of protocols. How an Armenian thinker can disregard the fact of the Armenian genocide and try to have normal relations with turkey, a country who illegally occupied our lands and murdered 1.5 million Armenians. The answerer is that these people do not see the things as we Armenians see but they see them in Russian perspective who didn’t suffer from genocide. They see Armenian – turkey problem the same way as would see it a Russian individual. As you may guess already this is a Russian proposal and the current administration is under a pressure to implement it. Otherwise there is no explanation to the government’s actions. Why would they try to stress already stressed Armenian population. There are too many problems in Armenia already oligarchs, injustice, mass poverty, economy, political, danger of war you name it. Why add this one?
Arman, I agree with you, great points.
Arman jan,
Your argument about languages actually exposes the real problem Armenia has – its people and not any particular ruling administration. Like I said, governments are an accurate reflection of the people they rule over and every nation deserves the government it has. Just like it’s not Serik’s job to “teach” Armenians not to pile up garbage everywhere or to “teach” drivers to yield to pedestrians crossing streets, it’s not Serjik’s job to make sure self-hating Armenians of this world take their mother tongue seriously – that’s the job of the children’s parents. All the government can do is pass laws to stop bad/destructive practices. But it’s up to the citizenry to be law abiding and responsible; passing laws to curb such behavior actually speaks volumes about our destructive peasantry. Anyway, realizing the caliber of those I am dealing here with, I realize you will not understand me. Actually, I respond to the likes of you for the general public that may be reading this.
Like I said, those who proposed these international schools think that by doing so they will be making Armenia competitive on the global stage by preparing a new generation of men and women who master various different languages. If Armenia is to become a trade hub, which is what the current leaders are working on despite you peasants, this program can be potentially be beneficial. However, I also understand that this needs to be closely regulated and monitored.
Also, your “20 years” of being in Armenian/ARF politics is the equivalent of selling watermelons on street corners in countries like Russia, America, Germany, Britain, France, China, Switzerland and Israel… I’m not impressed. Like I said, you self-destructive peasants are burning down your village to save it from imaginary monsters? Knowing that you are a decent and well meaning person that has served our homeland, it pains me to speak this way to you. However, seeing how irrational, how obsessive, how destructive you people can become, as a self -respecting Armenian I cannot remain silent.
Avetis,
“those who proposed these international schools think that by doing so they will be making Armenia competitive on the global stage by preparing a new generation of men and women who master various different languages.”
Can anyone see the stupidity of this argument? How can it be that learning math in Russian is more competitive than learning it in Armenian? This is the stupid thing I have ever heard. Guess what? 3 + 3 = 6 in Armenian and English. What is there to be competitive?
That is to say that German cars are good because they speak too many languages. Can you see how low these people can lie? They are lying and looking on your face strait as retards. How can a person use this argument and be in government not saying a minister of education??? Well, I think you just found the answer to; why Armenia is in this situation today.
Do they mean that the information about the subjects are poor in Armenian schools (the books)? If that is the reason than publish good books using professionals with universal knowledge in Armenian. Why make a nation to speak in different languages to get the info they need? So if tomorrow Chinese becomes “competitive” language than all Armenians should learn and speak Chinese? How stupid these people can get?
This argument is not even worth to discuss.
Instead of creating industries so that economy can grow these crooks are looking for excuses.
To Arman – You wrote: Most of the time we wonder why the Armenian government does things that are against our interests. The simple answer would be that most of these people have Russian education and are very far from Armenian values. Take an example of protocols. How an Armenian thinker can disregard the fact of the Armenian genocide and try to have normal relations with turkey, a country who illegally occupied our lands and murdered 1.5 million Armenians. The answerer is that these people do not see the things as we Armenians see but they see them in Russian perspective who didn’t suffer from genocide. They see Armenian – turkey problem the same way as would see it a Russian individual.
Again, if protocols was so much against our interest why Turkey is refusing to ratify it? please explain
You are against the protocols, against Russian influence, Russia which is the sole reason why we have this Armenia and the reason why turkey is not crushing us to help their Azeri brothers maybe the least we can do is to open 10 Russian schools. Don’t forget about five months ago Russia granted Armenia 500 million dollar which Armenia badly needed and why we have 7pct GDP growth. Armenia just applied for another 1 billion dollar loan, (We need all this money to fight against Azeri petro dollars) Azeris and Turks trying to crush us economically and yes Russia is helping us and Diasporas help of 10 million telethon money is really not much and I am sure you never paid any money to telethon because the money was going to Serjiks pocket..
One thing we all agree on is Turks and Azeris are trying to crush Armenia economically, if anyone follows their news almost everyday they have news about how bad situation is in Armenia, the more we complain, the more we blame each other, the more they are achieving their goals, please lets stop blaming each other and blame the Turks.
Avetis, who do you think you are, calling everybody “peasants” just because they don’t agree with you? You’re also missing the point. No one is against teaching foreign languages in Armenia. In fact, foreign languages have always been taught in Armenia (and in every other country). What we’re against is INSTRUCTION in foreign languages (as in, teaching IN a foreign language as opposed to teaching the foreign language itself). These are two COMPLETELY different things. You don’t have to be in an English or Russian school in order to learn English or Russian. Haven’t you heard of the concept of taking courses? Kids in Armenia are now learning Armenian, Russian, English, and French. They all go to Armenian schools and are instructed in Armenian. This is how it is with every country (people are instructed in the official language of their country and take foreign language courses).
I’ve been chatting online with a friend in Armenia and she can speak Armenian, English, Russian, and Spanish. All of them very well. She didn’t need to go to four different schools to learn all of them. She thinks in Armenian, of course (which she should because she’s Armenian and lives in Armenia). If foreign language schools were to reopen in Armenia, then all the students who would be enrolled in those schools would think and dream in a language other than Armenian even though they live in Armenia. That would not be a good sign. You say that this is an “imaginary monster”? That’s exactly what happened in the Soviet era when there were Russian schools in Armenia. The people enrolled in those schools spoke more Russian than Armenian. In fact, Russian became the prestigious, high class language in Armenia. Ask anybody from Armenia. There are remnants of that today. A lot of people in Armenia speak with a Russian accent, which is why they sound like their mouths are full when they speak. Not all of them talk like that but a lot do. In the northern regions, there are people who speak more Russian. Fortunately, the people in Armenia have been improving their Armenian since gaining independence. That progress would be undone with the reopening of foreign language schools.
Yes, we must learn other languages so we can represent Armenia in the international community. However, we cannot represent our country if we don’t even know our OWN language or anything else about our culture.
Raffi, the reason why Turkey refuses to ratify the protocols is because it doesn’t want to damage relations with Azerbaijan. All Armenia has to do is to agree to let Azerbaijan reoccupy Artsakh. Then Turkey would waste no time ratifying the protocols. I don’t know if you’ve been reading the news but this is exactly what Erdoghan has been saying.
Also, your reasoning that Armenia should open up 10 Russian schools just because Russia has been “helping” Armenia is ridiculous. With that logic, every European country should open up 10 German schools because Germany is bailing them out of their economic crises. Language is not related with economics and geopolitics. Citizens don’t even speak to governments of other countries, their own government does.
You also speak as if Russia extended a hand in friendship to help out Armenia. There is something you must understand about International Relations (IR). Russia doesn’t care about Armenian interests. Russia cares about RUSSIAN interests and Russian interests ONLY. States, in general, only care about their own interests. They are self-interested, just like the human beings that make them. Therefore, only Armenians care about Armenian interests. Alliances are good but be cautious, they only last as long as both states serve each others’ interests, which is why it’s important for a state to get strong enough to protect itself. Russia is only helping Armenia because Armenia is the only country in the region that is not pro-West. Armenia helps Russia in the proxy war against the US and has sold all of her infrastructure to Russia. In return, Russia gives Armenia protection from her enemy, Turkey. It is extremely important that Armenia gets stronger and more independent because this partnership will not last forever. When the time comes that Russia no longer needs Armenia, we had better hope that Armenia would be strong enough to protect and sustain herself because that’s not the case today. If Armenia opens up ten Russian schools, big deal.
You said, “One thing we all agree on is Turks and Azeris are trying to crush Armenia economically, if anyone follows their news almost everyday they have news about how bad situation is in Armenia”.
The situation in Azerbaijan is not better than in Armenia. That country is even more corrupted than Armenia (just look at the ranking of the most corrupt countries) and it’s obvious; Azerbaijan is rich in oil and yet, the entire population lives in poverty. Hmmm…
Raffi,
Your question is out of the scope of this topic but I would answer you.
First of all turks already told us why they don’t ratify the protocols. They want Artsakh conflict to be resolved under azerie’s condition; which means Artsakh inside azerbaijan. Protocols are not really air and water for turkey to survive they de-facto have (illegal occupation of western Armenia) what is written into the protocols. By ratifying the protocols Turkey will legalize the occupation of western Armenia. So this is just going to be a signature on a paper that tells western Armenia is turkey to anyone who reads it, that’s all. What turkey wants from us is Artsakh which is de-facto ours. Can you now see how the politics run? You can play if you actually (de-facto) have something, if you don’t than you are ignored.
On the other hand protocols are very dangerous for Armenia. Ratifying it means saying goodbye to western Armenia; in other word legalizing the turkish occupation. Another issue is the historical commission which is going to discuss whether the Armenian genocide should be called genocide as is or a war time tragedy. Of course Armenian side will say it is genocide and turks will say the opposite. It will always be an issue of uncertainty, after all this is what the turks want.
This is a simple logic Raffi and I don’t know why I am explaining this to you. The protocols have been discussed by many politicians for many times. Even your lovely government sees the preconditions now. Moreover, Clinton and some US politicians make it clear that the historical commotion is going to discuss the Armenian genocide. You just need to read the protocols and you will see the preconditions in there black on white.
Here is a reference to the protocols if you need:
http://www.papkenseuni.com/Content.aspx?AID=/protocols-between-the-republic-of-armenia-and-the-republic-of-turkey/62
It appears that some people have forgotten the wonderful poem of Silva Kapoutikian” Oo tes vordis, oor el lines, ays loosni tak orr el gnas, te mor@t ankam mtkits hanes, ko Mayr lezoon CHMORANAS!” But there again, those who are willing to sell their mother tongue will also sell their mothers!Enough said!
Arman jan,
I’m done discussing anything with you. Too bad I took you seriously at first. It’s simply amazing and shocked at how paranoid and out of touch you people are. Like I said, observing this place for some time now, I am 100% convinced that you people here are clinically sick. I really-really hope others are reading this discussion and not just your fellow peasantry.
Dear Arman, I thank you for your explanation and I couldn’t agree with all the points that you made above, I mean to all of them. I think exactly like yourself. Now I know that it isn’t for the oligarch’s children; but mostly it is their Russo-Bolchevik derived thinking of 70 years’ regime. Since Russia pressures them to open up more Russian and other schools, then they simply go along with it. The very unfortunate part is that already the younger generation of Armenians speak Russian more than Armenian in Armenia. Now they will all gain free reign of speaking, writing and already thinking Russian. I couldn’t agree with you more that speaking, singing and reading your own literature and history books will make you and maintain your Armenianness. Why do you think for instance I am interested in Armenian news so much and free Armenia, Artsakh and regaining Western Armenian lands? The simple and the real reason, it is because I read Armenian literature, history books, I was involved with Armenian communities, Churches and since I was a young girl my father would take me to Armenian lectures and “hantes'” all the time. That’s how I became the fabric that I am today. Otherwise, in the Diaspora I wouldn’t have been interested to this extent and have been involved with preserving Armenianness. So yes dear Arman, how true it is that it is the language that makes and create the culture, and it is the culture that creates nationalities. We can only blame the Bolshevik destructive regime of 70 years span in Armenia that made our people to think and breath more Russian than Armenian. The question is, where to go from here? What to do now to gain both our people and our government to get on the right track? The ARF and the Diaspora’s work is extremely vast and heavy, that is what I surmise to. I hope and pray that somehow our newer generation of Armenians in our homeland do not lose themselves more than they did; but start coming to their senses through the more patriotic Armenians in there and in our Diaspora. I just hope that somehow the ARF will be able to control the country and bring them home!
How I agree with you Arman jan, about the protocols and how dangerous they are. I can’t imagine any REAL Armenian being on the side of the dangerous protocols. It is pretty much submitting ourselves to the enemy. Thank God the enemy didn’t agree to it so far for it was giving to the Turks our Western Armenian stolen lands after annihilating and throwing the remnants of Armenians out of our homeland in 1915, then pretty much they wanted all. Armenia, Sevana lidj and Artsakh. Neither Turkey nor “azerbaijan” wish Armenia on the map. The protocols were extremely dangerous for the continuation of our sovereignty and for Artsakh alike.
Այս գարնան հետ, այս ծաղկունքի, այս թռչնակի, այս առուակի, հետն այս երգի ու զարթօնքի բացուեց լեզուն իմ մանկիկի. ու թոթովեց բառ մի անգին Հայկեան լեզուից մեր սրբազան, ասես մասունք յաղորդութեան դիպաւ մանկանս շրթունքին: Լսի՜ր որդիս պատգամ որպէս սիրող քո մօր խօ՜սքը նրան այսօրուանից յանձնում եմ քեզ Հայոց լեզո՜ւն հազարագանց: Կտրել է նա յանձ աստղալոյս, երկինքները ժամանակի, շառաչել է խռովայոյզ սլացքի հետ Հայկեան նետի: Եւ Մեսրոպի սուրբ հանճարով դարձել է գիր ու մագաղաթ, դարձել է յոյ՜ս դարձել դրօ՜շ պահել երթը մեր անաղարտ… նրանով է մրմջացել Հայ պանդուխտը վէքն իր սրտի, նրանո՜վ է ոռոտացել կռուի երգն իմ ժողովրդի, Նրանո՜վ է մայրս ջահել ինձ օրօրոց դրել մի օր, Հիմա եկել քե՜զ է հասել նրա կարկա՜չը դարաւոր… Բա՜ց շուրթերդ խօսի՜ր անգին, ժիր դայլայլի՜ր, ի՜մ սիրասուն, Թող մանկանա՜յ քո շուրթերին մեր ալեհե՜ր Հայոց լեզուն… Պահի՜ր նրան բարձր ու վճիտ, Արարատի սուրբ ձիւնի պէս, Պահի՜ր նրան սրտիդ մօտիկ քո պապերի աճիւնի պէս, ու ոսոխի զարկիցը սէւ դու պաշտպանի՜ր կրծքով նրան, ինչպէս մօ՜րդ կը պաշտպանես թէ սո՜ւր քաշեն մօրդ վրան. Ու տե’ս որդիս, ուր էլ լինես, այս լուսնի տակ ո’ւր էլ գնաս,
Թէ մօ՜րդ անգամ մտքից հանես,
Քո մա՜յր լեզուն չմոռանա՜ս:
ԽՕՍՔ ԻՄ ՈՐԴՈՒՆ
Սիլվա Կապուտիկեան
Thank you Nairian jan for the poem. I think it is the spirit we need now. As you can see some of us are gone far from our roots and the reality. I like to post it ones more, it is so beautifully said by Silva Kaputikyan.
ԽՈՍՔ ԻՄ ՈՐԴՈՒՆ
Այս գարնան հետ, այս ծաղկունքի,
Այս թռչնակի, այս առվակի,
Հետն այս երգի ու զարթոնքի
Բացվեց լեզո՜ւն իմ մանկիկի:
ՈՒ թոթովեց բառ մի անգին
Հայկյան լեզվից մեր սրբազան,
Ասես մասունք հաղորդության
Դիպավ մանկանս շրթունքին…
– Լսի՛ր, որդիս, պատգամ որպես
Սիրող քո մոր խո՜սքը սրտանց,
Այսօրվանից հանձնում եմ քեզ
Հայոց լեզո՜ւն հազարագանձ:
Կտրել է նա, հանց աստղալույս,
Երկինքները ժամանակի,
Շառաչել է խռովահույզ
Սլացքի հետ հայկյան նետի,
ՈՒ Մեսրոպի սուրբ հանճարով
Դարձել է գիր ու մագաղաթ,
Դարձել է հո՜ւյս, դարձել դրո՜շ,
Պահել երթը մեր անաղարտ…
Նրանո՛վ է մրմրնջացել
Հայ պանդուխտը վերքն իր սրտի,
Նրանո՛վ է որորտացել
Կռվի երգն իմ ժողովրդի,
Նրանո՛վ է մայրս ջահել
Ինձ օրորոց դրել մի օր,
Հիմա եկել, քե՜զ է հասել
Նրա կարկաչը դարավոր…
Բա՛ց շուրթերդ, խոսի՜ր, անգի՛ն,
Ժիր դայլայլի՜ր, ի՛մ սիրասուն,
Թող մանկանա՛ քո շուրթերին
Մեր ալեհե՜ր հայոց լեզուն…
Պահի՛ր նրան բարձր ու վճիտ,
Արարատի սուրբ ձյունի պես,
Պահի՛ր նրան սրտիդ մոտիկ,
Քո պապերի աճյունի պես,
ՈՒ ոսոխի զարկիցը սև
Դու պաշտպանի՛ր կրծքով նրան,
Ինչպես մո՜րդ կպաշտպանես,
Թե սո՛ւր քաշեն մորդ վրան,
ՈՒ տե՛ս, որդիս, ո՛ւր էլ լինես,
Այս լուսնի տակ ո՜ւր էլ գնաս,
Թե մո՛րդ անգամ մտքիցդ հանես,
Քո մա՜յր լեզուն չմոռանա՛ս:
Սիլվա Կապուտիկյան
Arman, Great ideas in Perfect Article,
Bravo, ARIS.
Please watch these videos, very interesting:
http://rutube.ru/tracks/3305914.html?v=0c6cbe63cf7eecaff8053f50aebd7caf
http://rutube.ru/tracks/3308531.html?v=0b49794d71104ea7d1e31e4e9a9e69d3
Arman, I’m neither levonakan nor serjakan, because none of them are trustworthy, but first, levon himself was in hhsh and he with vano was killing everybody. Second, if you are so prefessional, what the &^%& is “serjik” or “serjoglu” or any name calling? is that the level of your professionalism? Now, protocols are very little dangerous for armenia. I mean every single nation/country wishes in the world not to be in an economic blockade, and us too hate to be in this economic blockade, the protocols, open the border with turkey and free us from this blockade, which was a smart move from serj’s part, besides, I dont know how much are u aware, but if 2 countries dont recognize each other de-facto, or dont recognize each others’ countries physical borders, they cannot sit around the table and discuss any issue. SO without the protocols, there would be no genocide issue, no negotiations. Leave Serj alone, lets see what he does
Arman,
loll you are funny, you being not aware of this competitiveness idea, tells me that u r not too knowledgeable, u think simple. Let me bring you an example, Medicine in the US is more competitive in Armenia. can u say, ibuprofen is same in Armenia and in america? loll that would be too funny, now let me tell u why. america has far better technology, far more useful medicine, I have a diabetic relative in Armenia, there is no insulin pump in Armenia, which u attach to your body and get automatic insulin pump. I send him insulin pumps from US. I send him pills, which some of the Armenian doctors have not heard of. Do you see the difference? Now, can u say, ibuprofen is the same ibuprofen in Armenia and in US. NO. with math, math is in fact more competitive in Russia, why? Why is american education better than Armenian? because Americas population is much more than Armenia, and since so, there would be more smart people in US that in Armenia, same with Russia, Russia has about 150 million population compared to Armenia’s 3 million? thats 50 times less, meaning statistically, there would be far less mathematicians and scientists in Armenia then in Russia, which means Russia with this much scientists and mathematician have more knowledge about math than, those in Armenia. Another example, How could Russia build a submarine komsomolets, which could go down 1040 meters in water, and Armenia not? metal is a metal, why Armenia cant build it? u see? By the way did u know that there are many math equations in the world that are still not solved? did u know that there are equations that 100 and more mathematicians work on for years to solve???? do u understand me now?
MEfromSD,
Again, why people do not reason correctly? This should be the question of 21st century. Unfortunately I don’t have the answered for that.
MEfromSD I don’t understand what you are talking about. What the population has anything to do with a language being competitive in science??? You bring issues that do not connect. I said it in the past and I will say it now, 3 + 3 = 6 in Armenian, English and Russian.
Lastly, I didn’t say I am a professional. I am simply an Armenian; a kind that speaks Armenian and has its own culture. And yes serjogly is bad!
@ MEfromSD
There’s less population in Europe, but life expectancy is way higher + schools are affordable, without taking a loan. Read Aram his posts, he’s completely right. The difference between the poor and the rich in Armenia is already too big, this will only worsen it.
*comparison between USA & Europe, which actually indicates that it doesn’t mean shit with how many people you are. What does matter is the opportunities which can improve the economic situation in Armenia and give more perspective to MORE people. Don’t forget that Armenia is blocked on its west and east side. It’s a wonder they manage to survive, with the Diaspora to thank in my opinion.
As for an armenian living in Europe I can’t stress out how important it is to preserve our language, I have many armenian friends, but the ones who can write and read armenian I can’t count on 1 hand. That is, those who didn’t go to school in Armenia and learned it here, like me.
Our language is so unique, one of the last things left for us to be proud about, I pray they won’t go through with this.
What does matter is the opportunities which can improve the economic situation in Armenia and give more perspective to MORE people. Don’t forget that Armenia is blocked on its west and east side. It’s a wonder they manage to survive, with the Diaspora to thank in my opinion.
As for an armenian living in Europe I can’t stress out how important it is to preserve our language, I have many armenian friends, but the ones who can write and read armenian I can’t count on 1 hand. That is, those who didn’t go to school in Armenia and learned it here, like me.
Our language is so unique, one of the last things left for us to be proud about, I pray they won’t go through with this.